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  Talk with a witness, my " Final Showdown"

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday a witness friend asks why i don't attend the k.h anymore.. me:- " i don't say this often but your j.ws opinion is wrong" .

  the end.. my reasons for this simple reply were:-.

  a) i have grown tied of reading j.w crap.

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  The Rebel

  Interesting observation " The Searcher"

  I guess my attitude to my witness friends is " I am me and I think different from you" If we can get along and continue as friends that's fine by me. If not it wasn't much of a basis to base friendship on in the first place.

  So I try to be positive, and see my new life as an incredible and exciting experience. I can't help feel sad if past " friendships" were nothing more than fantazy. Maybe I am pretending I don't care, but I have promised myself this "incredible & exciting new life is going to be positive not negative.

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  Geoffrey Jackson's Golden Apple watch INVESTIGATED

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.

  the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .

  the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.

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  The Rebel

  I guess the days you work at an organisation for 50 years and retire before you receive a " SILVER" watch are well and truly over at the " W.T"

  My point being a life time spent at Bethel for many means on retirement being kicked out with nothing but the shoes on your feet, and a tatty suit. ( Not even I bet a box of chocolates) But if your on the G.B...you have the nice suit, the best apartment,the respect, the travel, a young wife, who I bet wears Sanitex Rubber Body Stockings. ( Do you know how much that costs?) and a " GOLD" watch before you retire.

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  Talk with a witness, my " Final Showdown"

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday a witness friend asks why i don't attend the k.h anymore.. me:- " i don't say this often but your j.ws opinion is wrong" .

  the end.. my reasons for this simple reply were:-.

  a) i have grown tied of reading j.w crap.

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  The Rebel

  Wasanelder Once:- " It's kinda vague"

  I agree, but a little more diplomatic and I hope effective than " I No longer attend the Kingdom Hall because your Organisation is nothing more than a disgusting con, run by evil minded little creeps"

  The Rebel.
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  Talk with a witness, my " Final Showdown"

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yesterday a witness friend asks why i don't attend the k.h anymore.. me:- " i don't say this often but your j.ws opinion is wrong" .

  the end.. my reasons for this simple reply were:-.

  a) i have grown tied of reading j.w crap.

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  The Rebel

  Yesterday a witness friend asks why I don't attend the K.H anymore.

  Me:- " I don't say this often but YOUR J.Ws opinion is wrong"

  THE END.

  My reasons for this simple reply were:-

  a) I have grown tied of reading J.W CRAP

  b) I have grown tied of pointing out J.W CRAP.

  Everything they believe is " ASUMPTION". You can't go through life believing "other" people's ASSUPTIONS. And it always seems pointless to debate.

  I am not sure if my simple answer will have an impact? I doubt it. But then in the past voicing my deeper concerns about the W.T have only bought trouble for me.

  Do you think my " I don't say this often but YOUR J.W. opinion is wrong" and then leaving it at that was :-

  a) Lazy

  or

  b) Effective.

  Answers can be, Yes, No, Possibly and even ASSUMPTIVE:-)

  The Rebel.
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  Geoffrey Jackson's Golden Apple watch INVESTIGATED

  by C0ntr013r in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.

  the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .

  the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.

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  The Rebel

  This subject and subsequent posts has opened my eyes to how afflulence in my former congregation works:-

  a) All the Elders were very conservative and home owners.

  b) Eldership was like " a jolly boys club"

  c) A " spiritual brother" living less affluantly would find the jump from " ministerial servant" to " Elder" would take longer.

  d) I believe it would take a similar " conservative" outlook to really fit in to the "Elder circle"

  Affordability and Golden Apple watches.

  An additional point. If you live in an affluent area and you own your property you are a wealthy person. Many areas in London property goes up 15% a year. That is a lot of money. Now if you have a small mortgage on that property, and a salary, you have a lot of disposable income.

  Now this is the interesting observation.

  Most elders I noted didn't wear EXSPENSIVE watches nor did they drive FLASHEY cars. They did however I noted spend money, extending their property, adding conservatories, new kitchens, bathrooms, ect. And they took good holidays.

  The interesting observation to me was how the congregation seemed to view extravegent and non extravegent expenditure. Personally when I was a young man I always resented being told by a non pioneering, property owning Elder to reach out and pioneer.

  Why didn't they downgrade their property or go live in a bed sit and pioneer?

  The Rebel.
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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

  1. social
  2. current

  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  you're the greatest Viviane, and I am sure I am speaking on behalf of the entire board. Well perhaps not.

  Personally as I stated in my opinion " fisher person" made a legitimate contribution to this thread. I do not believe she is a troll.

  What is a troll?

  So you answer "Rebel shows up to be confused by words and there meanings and troll on as well" ( never did you make such comments when I shared your opinion)

  So much for a discussion or answering questions that i raised.

  So whilst I do not agree with fisherpersons comments, do not say " I iam confused by words" That is a cheap cop out by an ego that prefers inhaling cyanide, than respecting the fresh air and viewpoint of another's opinion.

  The Rebel.
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  What ARE the fruits that the JW tree produces?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.

  so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.

  just asking....sincerely.

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  We'll thank you for that observation " disposable Hero of Hypocricy" and your right " some may get through an entire life in the bOrg benefited ( only because they they KNOW NO better ) I would say it's because they lack knowledge and NO, KNOW better.

  But then we all someday should have to look back from the mirror, and the amount of hairspray we put in our hair, has little to do with who we are inside.

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  If she doesn't comply an orange jumpsuit is in her future

  by DJS in

  1. social
  2. current

  scotus: kentucky clerk must issue same-sex marriage licenses.

  by ariane de vogue, cnn supreme court reporter.

  updated 8:02 pm et, mon august 31, 2015. let's hope this is the final screech from the haters who wrap themselves in the bible - or their egoist political philosophy i doubt it will be, but let's hope..

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  The Rebel

  In fairness what is a troll?

  Has " fisherperson" made a legitimate contribution to this thread?

  If so in my opinion she is not a troll.

  Everything depends on words and our interpretation of words. Personally I do not agree with her words, but they have produced for me thoughts. Those thoughts I have not slept on but instead allowed challenge my thinking.

  The Rebel.
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  What ARE the fruits that the JW tree produces?

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my brother [the elder] often refers to this line as to 'knowing a tree by it;s fruits'.

  so,my question is what are the jw fruits?.

  just asking....sincerely.

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  The Rebel

  Well "disposable hero of hypocrocy " you raise fair points. Personally I would answer your post:-

  For some it takes longer for the smoke to clear. Therefore no hangman rope from me to your comment, but I don't see it your way.

  The Rebel

  p.s The Watchtoer never made me a better man. And I don't thank it for the times it gave me.
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  New light from GB member David Splane!

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the latest jw broadcast splane is quoted as saying:.

  "suppose there was a man who died 10 minutes before joseph was born.

  would he be part of joseph's generation?

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  The Rebel

  Punk in my day rock stars hullusinated on drugs, lost consciousness and expressed themselves in great songs such as " won't get fooled again"

  Personally I am not sure what acid our " Rock Star" Splane is on, but I would sure like to try some. It seems to bypass common sence and reality...

  The Rebel.